TEST: SRAM RED VERSUS CAMPAG VELOCE

We've heard a lot about the new SRAM Red groupset.

We've heard that it 'represents the pinnacle of road racing technology and delivers countless performance advantages to the professional and enthusiast alike'. 

We've also heard that it weighs 1730g and costs £1,400.00
We've heard that you can change gear and that most of the time the chain doesn't come off.
 
We are also familiar with our old friend, the Campagnolo Veloce groupset.
It weighs 2454g and it costs £342.00
You can change gear and most of the time the chain doesn't come off.

We've thoroughly road tested bikes with Campag Veloce and SRAM Red both on the road and our laboratories* and can confirm that they're exactly the same.

The weight difference of 724g is all in the mind. If you think the weight matters you could try drinking two pints less per week, which should see the three quarters of a kilo falling off nicely.

Your bike will also look much nicer and your mates won't think you're crazy.

Campag Veloce, gram for gram possibly the best groupset.....in the world.**

* Possibly not true
** Possibly

TIFOSI WEIGHT REDUCTION

The Tifosi CK7 Veloce Audax bike has arrived!

For £750 (sale price) you get a triple butted 7005 alloy frame with mudguard and rack eyelets, a carbon fork, Campag Veloce shifters and dérailleurs, a Miche compact chainset and brakes, as well as Miche Reflex wheels.

The original weight was 9.6Kgs so I raided the basement to see what weight we could lose by swapping components.

The original alloy seat-post and Selle Italia X1 saddle weighed 620g but I had a PZ 27.2mm carbon post and Fizik Aliante saddle that together tipped the scales at 420g, quite a decent weight saving to get things started. Weight now 9.4Kgs

The next and most obvious weight saving (over half a kilo) came from swapping the wheels & tyres.

The Miche reflex front wheel including Zaffiro tyre was 1.56Kgs and the rear wheel 1.68Kgs, making a total of 3.24Kgs.
Once I'd swapped them for my Zondas (with Continental 4 Seasons tyres) the weight of the bike came down to 8.86Kgs (without pedals) a further reduction of 0.54Kgs.

8.86Kgs is reasonably light for a winter bike. Apart from helping with the hills it also helps getting it up and down the narrow stairs to the basement. This was a virtually impossible task with my heavy old hack, a few years back.
I went straight out for a test spin and found the bike lively and responsive - and quite comfortable too. A really nice ride and even better than I was expecting.

One reviewer of the bike mentioned being able to 'feel a bit more of the road', saying fatter tyres would help, but I think that problem was solved with the use of my PZ carbon seat-post which really reduces road buzz. The only thing I might change in the future would be the bars as I have a few spares sitting around that might suit me better - although thicker (and less flesh coloured!) bar tape might help as well.

My issue with the front chainring shifting will go on the back burner during winter. On my test ride I shifted between the Miche big and little rings a lot without any problems so fingers crossed (I've got a couple of dodgy left hand fingers, so it can be an issue).

 

Take a look at the Bike Buyers Guide and you can compare weights and prices of most best selling bikes currently on the market.






 
Veloce shifters have the benefit over Shimano Sora and Tiagra of having under bartape cable routing. Much neater! 
I'll change the tape to black once it's a bit worn out.
**LATEST**
Changed bars to ProVibe 42cm. Another small weight saving (and more comfortable for me).
I've also totally solved my front chainring shifting issue. I've learned to ease off the pressure just before the shift, and the chain is now changing from one ring to the other without a problem. It's taken me long enough to sort that out!
Overall I'm a big fan of this bike, but the wheel change has been the key. The Miche Reflex are fine if you just want a hack, but if you want a bike for sportive riding, winter training or fast commuting I'd highly recommend an upgrade.

THE PERFECT NUMBER OF BIKES?

OK I think I may finally have stumbled across my perfect number of bikes. Not perfect as in N+1, but a practical arrangement that takes into account that I have to share my house with my wife and two rapidly growing boys - and limited space.

And it wasn't because of a cunning plan or months of research, but because it was raining.

To recap, I sold my Ribble with the SRAM Red groupset (frame and groupset sold separately) as well as my Rossin rebuild. And with the proceeds I bought a Canyon Ultimate AL 9.0 Di2, in the sale, for £1684.00 - and had a few hundred quid left over.

So far so good.
The electronic gears have solved my front chainring shifting issues caused by having shorter middle and ring fingers on my left hand (Serbian mortar bomb during the Bosnian conflict). The shifting is incredible.

But there is a downside. When I was asked if I wanted to go on a Sunday ride with the St John's Hill Cycling Club in the pouring rain I realised that the Canyon isn't the bike for a ride like that. The frame is white (black wasn't an option in the sale) with white bartape and a white saddle. It all looks very pretty I think, but not very 'weather proof'.
So what I needed was a 'winter' bike.
Now it's easy for the casual observer to conclude that no, you don't need a winter bike, you just need some clip on mudguards and away you go. Well no, I'm not going down that road, and here's my excuse reasoning:

1. The Canyon is here to stay for as long as possible. With electronic shifting and a weight of just 7.5Kgs what more could I want from the bike (wasn't it Bike of the Year 2012 for goodness sake?). If I can't get on with this one I might as well pack it in.

2. Using this bike throughout the year would drastically reduce its life expectancy. It doesn't have the thick paint and anti-corosion treatments of an audax/winter bike, and although electronic gears are supposed to be reliable enough, I think exposing them to a lot of rain, grit and salt is not a good idea. And clip on guards are never as effective as full length ones. It's not even a top end bike - I'm always amazed when I see a Cervelo or the like battling through the rain and the traffic. But the Canyon deserves to be treated with respect.

3. A good winter bike will be designed to take everything that the weather can throw at it. 
I actually dug out a few reviews collected from the cycling press before making my selection. It actually ended up as a choice between a Ribble Winter Training Bike and the Tifosi CK7 Veloce
The Ribble in its most basic form didn't appeal (not a massive fan of the Sora groupset) and equiped with a Veloce groupset it worked out at £750.00. The Tifosi is supposed to retail for £989 but a quick search online found one available for just £750, with slightly better componentry than the Ribble. It's also a much prettier bike IMHO, and that, combined with a couple of favourable magazine reviews tipped the scales in its favour.

* Frame: Tifosi triple butted 7005 alloy
* Forks: Tifosi carbon
* Groupset: Campag Veloce/Miche
* Wheels: Miche Reflex
* Cinelli handlebar and stem
* Vittoria Zaffiro tyres
* Cinelli alloy post

Overall a pretty decent deal, and weighing in at 9.5Kgs, not too heavy either.
I'll swap the wheels for my Campag Zondas left over from the sale of the Sportive Bianco, which should reduce the weight to below the 9Kgs mark (I'll let you know when I've weighed it).

In theory, both bikes should arrive next week and my cunning plan is to leave the Canyon in its box in the basement, to be brought out and built in March or April, at which time the Tifosi can be locked up safely in the secure underground bike park at work.
I seriously think that buying the winter bike saves you money in the long term, as it'll stop you exposing the pricier bike to the worst of the elements, meaning it'll last a lot longer (or be worth more when you sell it).
With this setup my chopping and changing days should be over, for a couple of years at least.

MY PERFECT SETUP

Commuter bike - Surly Cross Check 10 speed - flat bars for London traffic
Summer bike - Canyon Ultimate AL 9.0 Di2
Winter bike - Tifosi CK7 Veloce

KIDS ROAD BIKES FROM AGE 8+

The first question to ask when buying a kids road bike (well this certainly applies to me) is 'am I buying this for me or for my child?' 
For children a road bike is trickier to ride than a flat bar bike and a little perseverance may be required. But supposing you really do have a future Cav or Lucy Garner on your hands, then where do you start?

Kids bikes are measured in wheel size rather than frame size so we're talking about 24" (60cm) wheels for a beginner road bike.
Generally these would be suitable for 8 year-olds with a minimum height of 130 cms although some claim to suit even smaller children. I'd advice patience because children are easily put off if things don't work out straight away. A bad experience with a bike that's too big for them might lead them straight back to the PlayStation.

Starting with the cheapest:

B'Twin Triban junior  (£230) 
'for children between 125 and 150 cm' 
Shimano 7 speed with 'ergonomic' shift levers
Double brake levers for safe braking
10.7 Kgs
Comment: The Triban 3 (£299) adult bike has been picking up very good reviews, so don't be put off by the low price tag necessarily. I'm going to take my six-year- old to try the Triban junior as soon as I get a chance. Will update when that's happened. Bars look a bit big, so we'll see.
 

Islabikes Luath 24 (£400) 
'for children aged 8+' 
Shimano/ Tektro/ SRAM 8 speed groupset 11-32 cassette
Dual brake levers
9.05 Kgs
Comment: Light and well made. Islabikes have a great reputation. Buy with confidence and they hold their price well. Notice how the bars are in proportion compared to some of the other bikes.

Dawes Espoir 3000 (£400)
'carefully designed to be a perfect junior road bike.'
16 speed
Proportional frame, bars & cranks, but not levers?
11.4 Kgs
Comment: On the face of it pretty expensive when compared to the Islabike which is more than 2 Kgs lighter.

Moda Minor 24 (£470)
'Geometry and components chosen to fit a junior rider' 
Microshift/ Shimano 18 speed groupset
Comment: My 9 year old tried it but was put off by the fact that his fingers couldn't reach around the brake levers.  I saw a boy who had just crashed at the Cycling Weekly Dorking Original Sportive last week because of the brake issue.
Looks cool, but make sure your child tries it properly first. 
···UPDATE··· The Moda kids bikes have been re-designed to make them more child friendly i.e. more suitable for smaller hands. Give ´em a try! 

Scott Speedster Jr 24 (£499-£579)
'perfect choice for the budding rider looking to make their first step into road racing'

Shimano 16 speed gears
8.4 Kgs
As purchased by 'VeloMom'
Comment: Serious machine, looks great, very light. Quite expensive at full price but good value on sale at £499. Resale value will be high. I think your child would need to be pretty confident to ride this.

Felt F24 (£589)
'Big time performance isn't just for grown-ups anymore'
Microshift/ Shimano groupset
Kids’ bars and levers
Alex Rim wheels
8.64 Kgs
Comment: Again, a very light, nice looking kids road bike with good components. Pretty much as above.

The Grupetto Primavera 24" (£575)
'a perfectly proportioned Road bike for young racers'.
Shimano/Alhonga groupset
Kids geometry
KT Road wheels
'Just over' 9Kgs
Comment: Italian styling, decent weight, good geometry.


At the other end of the spectrum I found this on sale at Amazon:

Viking Boy's Giro D'Italia 24 (£260)

´Viking road bikes heritage was born on the road, today they come fully loaded with the latest components´. - I´ll bet they do.

Comment: All I can find out about this bike is that is has Shimano gears (14 of them). There´s soimething nasty about it.

**LATEST in 2015**
Specialized Allez Junior (£600)
This is for slightly older kids...maybe 11+
´The stiff, light, race-inspired Allez offers great acceleration and handling—perfect for an aspiring racer, keen to get into the sport´.
Microshift R482 short-reach levers, Claris derailleurs, 650mm wheels. Dual brake levers.
Comment: Looks great, couldn´t find a quoted weight, but I lifted it and I´d guess it´s around nine and a bit kilos.
Ideal for someone into the road more than cyclocross perhaps.



Conclusion
Well the old adage might hold true here: You get what you pay for. The Scott and Felt bikes look like scaled down pro-style road bikes and the Luarth 24 is a safe, reliable bet if you want a bike that is sure to be tailor made for a child's proportions. For an older child the Specialized combines the look of a classic road bike with child friendly features.  
Dual brake controls might be essential if your child's hands are on the small side to enable safe braking when descending in particular.
At the Dorking Original Sportive I saw a dad with three boys on small size Triban 3s and they, dad told me, love them. So I'm off asap to Decathlon with my boys to try the B'Twin Triban junior and will report back shortly.

Reporting back: Never made it to Decathlon. Bought an Islabike for the 8 year old. They hold their value so well it´s almost like getting a free bike.
My 12 year old is next. I´ve sold his Jamis flat bar, and it´s either the Specialized or the Luath 700L for him (he´s tall for his age).
He tried a Vitus 979 50cm frame with a Shimano 600 groupset, but his hands were too small to reach the brake levers. So dual brakes are still important for him.
I might still get down to Decathlon to check the alternatives, as their reputation continues to improve.
 

KIDS BIKES - BALANCE & FIRST BIKE

Choosing a bike for your child has never been easy, but the good news is that in recent years manufacturers have at last latched on to the fact that parents are prepared to pay a little extra to get a high quality, well made bike with decent components and wheels, one that won't break your back when you try to lift it. And lets face it, your child may be able to cycle to the park, but when he or she refuses to cycle home again it'll be you who ends up carrying the bike.

Yes, you coud go to Halfords, the supermarket chains or the online retailers and buy something for £100 or less, but you'll probably end up with a bike that 'll put your child off cycling for years if you do. 
I know because I made that mistake myself by ordering a cheap bike (a Raleigh as it happens) on Amazon. It weighed a ton and the twist grip for gear shifting was so stiff even I struggled with it. My four year old had no chance. When I took it to my local bike shop to fix it they said it served me right for buying a cheap bike. Bit blunt, but fair cop.

BALANCE BIKES

My first tip is to start your child off with a 'balance bike'. There are many out there, and they're amazing. Kids love pushing themselves along on them and soon they'll be balancing  between pushes. And better still, when your child is ready for his first proper bike you won't need to bother with stabilisers, and before you know it, your budding Cav or Wiggo will be bombing around the park without a care in the world.
There are loads of brands to choose from, and they can be picked up second hand without too much difficulty.

FIRST BIKES

Size
It's very important to buy the right size bike for your child. One that's too big with brake handles that can't be operated properly will be dangerous, and crashes will only put your child off.

What to look for
Much like buying an adult bike, it's weight, components, wheels and build-quality that matter most, with weight being especially important for children.
Many parents/children opt for mountain bikes, but to be honest the extra weight of the suspension forks isn't really justifiable unless your child is going to be getting involved in some serious off-road action. 
It's more of a style issue. Children (well boys, mainly) tend to think mountain bikes are cool because they look tank-like.

Brands
So what are the main choices available? Well one brand stands out from the rest.

Cnoc 14

Islabikes are a shining light in kids' bikes manufacturing these days. Their UK assembled machines tick all the boxes. They're light, have good components (SRAM provide the groupsets), decent wheels and look great too. On the downside they're not cheap, but whichever model you go for you can guarantee that you'll be able to sell it for not far off what you bought it for when your child has outgrown it. Take a look on eBay if you don't believe me. 
The Cnoc 14 (also available in red!) weighs  just 5.68 Kgs and is suitable for children aged 3+. The Cnoc 16 is a slightly bigger version for age 4+ (still under 6Kgs and much cheaper than a Parlee!)


My six-year-old hated cycling because the cheap pile of junk I bought him when he was three put him off completely. It had stabilisers which were so badly designed that he toppled over twice, completely destroying his confidence, until he refused to get back on it.

GoTommy!

Eventually I bought him an Islabike Beinn 20 (7.9Kgs) for his sixth birthday. Unfortunately he refused to ride that as well after an initial wobbly attempt to cycle in our local park ended in failure. I actually had to borrow a balance bike which he secretly used at home when no-one was looking to get the balancing thing sorted. After two goes he got the hang of it. The next time we went to the park I ran alongside him with my hand on the back of the saddle; and the time after that he had it cracked. Of course now he really had the cycling bug and wanted to know why he didn't have a road bike like Cav (we'll come to that later!).

To be fair, there are a few alternatives out there that aren't too bad, but before you buy them check out the weight. They might be made by the big bike brands, but that doesn't mean they'll be as light as the Islabike. 
Even the very popular £250.00 Specialized Hotrock mountain bike [left] weighs in at 10.35 Kgs, that's the weight of an average adult bike. According to Bike Radar 'A kilo saved from the bike of a six-year-old weighing 30kg is like 2.5kg saved from an adult's'.

Giant XTC

The Giant XTC [right] looks ok for £200 but its weight isn't quoted on the Giant website. 
Trek, Scott and others have also dipped their toes half-heartedly into the children's market, without any great success.

Or there's always 2012's take on the good old Raleigh Chopper (£245.00) if your child has a good grip on post modernist irony. But they don't make 'em like they used to.

The Ridgeback MX20 is a big seller at around £200 (14 and 16" versions are also available). It has front suspension which means it weighs a fairly hefty 11.2Kgs



So to sum up, a good quality kids starter bike will cost you more than you might hope or expect, but your child will enjoy it much more, and you can resell it rather than junking it when it's been outgrown.
It'll also potentially cost you a lot less to service and repair as it'll be well made and less likely to go wrong (or fall apart). Cheap bikes often turn out to be a false economy.

Tom and I regularly go for quite lengthy rides (over ten miles) and so long as there isn't an uphill finish he's fine. A bit like me really.

RIDE A SPORTIVE - ON THE WRONG BIKE?

Due to some bad planning on my part I yesterday (Sunday 14th Oct) took part in the Dorking Original Sportive on my Surly Cross Check 10 speed commuter/touring bike. Yes I stripped off the kickstand and rack, and swapped over the saddle and seatpost to reduce weight, but it still tipped the scales at over 12 Kgs.

My wife, however, had no such problem with her trusty Giant Avail and cheerfully slipped past me on some of the steeper hills. Happily, neither of us had to get off and push, unlike quite a few of our fellow competitors participants.

I had ordered my Canyon Ultimate AL 9.0 Di2 on the 13th September hoping for it to arrive in time for yesterday's race event, but at time of writing, I'm told I have to wait another week and a half. I'm not complaining, however, as I (by chance) bought the bike in Canyon's end of season sale for £1680.00. I've just noticed the new 2013 price is £2039.00 - so that's an unusual stroke of luck.

And to be honest the increased anticipation is going to make its arrival all the more exciting, as well as more appreciated. As I slogged up and down hills for thirty one and a half miles yesterday I was dreaming of how the Canyon might handle the ride, compared to my very solid (and much loved, I have to say) Surly. 

Buying a new bike is a marvellous thing, so drawing out the whole process is actually rather a good idea. I can enjoy picturing myself 'literally' flying up the hills and taking on the serious roadies at Richmond Park for another couple of weeks. Once the bike has arrived no doubt my illusions will be shattered again. But at least I 'll be able to compare my times around the park with those achieved on the Ribble Sportive Bianco (my old road bike, just sold), although I'll need to get a bit fitter before doing that. My friends in the London Cycle Workshop are certain the Canyon should be a more zippy ride and I'm looking forward to being able to shift across the chainrings without the chain falling off (see a previous post!)

The lovely Koga-Miyata is still in the workshop awaiting new tyres, but being a 1977 Gents Tourer (GT) it isn't really designed for sportives either and, although it also has 10 gears, its vintage Shimano 600 gear ratio isn't nearly as wide as that of the Surly's modern 10 speed Tiagra, despite only having a single 42 tooth chainring. The Koga is a double (two chainrings) but they seem to be oddly similar in size. I'll count them when I get possession of the bike but they looked like 54/50 or something crazy. 

TOP TIP: One thing I can confirm however, is that you'll get a much better work-out riding a Sportive on a heavy hybrid than you will on your lightweight road bike. I felt like I'd ridden 50 miles rather than 31! [Update: Stiffness appeared in my glutes on Wednesday. 1st time I've had stiff legs after a ride. Didn't stretch though. Actually, not sure how to stretch come to think of it.]

This was my wife's first Sportive. Although she enjoys a bike ride she doesn't quite share my enthusiasm for everything cycling. Whereas I read Cycling Plus, Cycling Active, Cycling Weekly, Pro Cycling and Cycle Sport she reads Gardeners World (and a host of thrillers, most of which, rather worryingly, seem to be about women bumping off their husbands and getting away with it).

At the end of the ride Chris Boardman presented us with our rather fine medals and we had a bit of a chit-chat about brakes. Lucy's toying with the idea of getting a flat-bar road bike because she struggles with reaching the brakes, which means she's very careful (slow!) going downhill. Chris said his wife is the same, and recommended getting a hybrid with hydraulic disc brakes - rather charmingly he never mentioned Boardman bikes. 


 Clearly Lucy had no idea who she was talking to because when I said "she could get one of yours Chris" she piped up with "Jim's buying a Canyon". He actually looked rather hurt, but despite that he was still happy to pose for a photo. 
Cheers Lu. Apparently she thought he was 'some bloke who owned a bike shop'. 

CYCLE FITTING - A CASH COW FOR BIKE SHOPS?

Getting a bike made-to-measure is something many cyclists aspire to but few can afford. There's no question that done properly, a fitting session should result in a bike that will fit you perfectly, and be tailor-made for the type of cycling you do the most.
But if you can't afford a custom build then the next best thing is to have your own bike fitted to your individual optimum riding position.
A few months ago I went along for a session at a London bike shop where they used a well known bike-fitting company's technicians. The session lasted over an hour and cost a little over a hundred pounds.
The technician spotted a few problems with my set up on the bike; my cycling shoes were too loose and their cleats weren't aligned correctly, the saddle was too small and too low, and the bars were too wide and tilted forward too much, making me reach too far thus putting a strain on my back.

I was then fitted for special shoe inserts that were heat moulded to my feet, a new set of bars were fitted, and a new Fizik saddle replaced my more basic one. I left the shop feeling more comfortable on the bike but a little lighter in the pocket. After a couple of rides I was happy that I could ride for longer before the dreaded back pain kicked in, I felt like I was pedalling more efficiently, and the saddle was probably a little more comfortable than my old one.

I was a bit surprised, however, when I looked at the old bars that had come off my bike and realised they had been exactly the same size and shape as the new ones that had been fitted. Still, overall I was pleased enough, and was happy to recommend the service to a friend who had shoulder problems which his physio felt were exacerbated by road cycling.

I bumped into him the other day and he was pretty pleased with the results of his fitting. They'd said that his Specialized Allez, although it was the right size, was the wrong shape for him and 'couldn't be adjusted to fit'. They suggested a make and model of road bike that would suit him much better. I was impressed that they would recommend a bike that they don't actually sell, but less impressed when he replied that they do actually now sell them. This started the alarm bells ringing. As far as I can see, the two bikes have very similar geometry. It seemed odd that the Allez could not be adjusted sufficiently to fit, while this new bike, of the same size and shape, would make such a difference. I was also alarmed when he said they'd suggested that he swapped his run-around hybrid for one of the the same make as the road bike they'd recommended. Surely the bike shop wasn't using the cycle fitting service to sell new bikes to customers who didn't need them? Surely not!?
So if you're getting fitted for your own bike, be careful. If they recommend new bars and stem, or a new saddle, don't feel you have to go along with it. If you do, then think of shopping around before you buy theirs at full price. And if they suggest buying one of the bikes they sell, ask what the exact differences are between yours and the ones they're recommending.

HERNE HILL VELODROME IN THE SUMMER

It's October, the day's are getting shorter and colder. So here's a reminder of cycling heaven to cheer us all up. 

VINTAGE KOGA-MIYATA GT (1977) Impossible to Resist!

Seriously, how am I expected to resist this beauty!? It's a Koga-Miyata Gents Tourer model from 1977 in green metallic paint. The good news is there are around fifteen different models from tourers to pro racing bikes, they're great value and there's an excellent website where you can buy them. 

And my excuse? Well this one's staying at the in-laws in Suffolk so that when we visit them I'll be able to go for rides. Ideal!

Koga-Miyata was a Dutch company formed in 1974 that made high end bikes using Japanese components, mainly Shimano. In 2010 it became just Koga.
From 1980 Koga Miyata sponsored the IJsboerke cycle team with immediate success when the Dutch rider Peter Winen won a stage of the Tour de France at the Alpe d'Huez.

My touring model uses a Shimano 600 groupset, SR Afex cranks and Mavic wheels. As a tourer there are dual brake levers, but apart from that (and the addition of mudguards not present on mine) the model is the same spec as the Gents Racer.

And the excuse for buying her (apart from the extraordinary good looks, the great value etc!)? Well, for weekends with the in-laws in Suffolk it will be fantastic to have a bike based there for nice long rides. And there are at least three of the family who'll be able to make use of her. Can't wait for my first ride!
Happy days!

SHIFTING PROBLEMS - IT'S NEW BIKE TIME!

Ever since I became a born again cyclist three years ago I've had trouble shifting between the small ring and the big ring. The left hand sweep of the shifter required to get the front derailleur to move the chain across from one ring to the other has always been a bit hit and miss.
After having always blamed the bike I've now realised it's because of my left hand. I had the two middle fingers blown off by a mortar bomb in Sarajevo in the early nineties, and although they were re-attached they ended up shorter as the middle joints were shattered. Try shifting using only your index finger and you'll see it's not the most effective way of doing it.
Sometimes it works fine and sometimes it doesn't, but until recently I was blaming the shifters and was forever taking my Ribble back to the workshop only to be told that there was nothing wrong with the setup. The change from Campag Athena to SRAM Red didn't help at all and it gradually dawned on me that maybe it was my technique rather than the shifters that were to blame. I mentioned this to the guys in the workshop and it seems they thought that all along but didn't have the heart to tell me!
After quite a bit of research I've gone for the Canyon Ultimate AL 9.0 Di2 which has had great reviews, and the workshop guys say it's a well built machine from their experience working on them. Hopefully my shifting problems are over!
To fund this purchase I've sold the Ribble and the Rossin, both bikes that I loved in their own way. There's more about the Rossin here.
The Canyon weighs in at 7.55Kgs which is almost exactly the same weight as I'd got the Ribble down to. I intend see how I get on with the Mavic Ksyrium Equipe wheels and Selle Italia Race SE saddle, but still have the Zondas and Fizik Aliante in reserve in case needed.
So I still have leftover Pro-Vibe bars and seatpost, stem, Zonda wheels, a saddle....now all I need is a new frame, some shifters......

2012 OLYMPIC ROAD RACE IN THE FULHAM ROAD

The breakaway come into view

The eventual winner Vinoukorov [left] with Rigoberto Uran

The chasing group

The Peleton - Ian Stannard in second position

Cavendish mid frame knowing the dream is dead

Chris Froome looking done in

A big cheer for a tail-ender

Not the result many people wanted but a great ride by Vinoukorov. As far as we know he won fair and square so chapeau to him and to Rigoberto Uran who gave him a run for his money.

The GB team were up against it once the peleton had decided not to help them. Cavendish will recover, but it might take him some time. Chris Froome looked very tired and with the Olympic Time Trial to complete, will he be fresh enough to mount a challenge in the Vuelta?

Let's hope Bradley can go on to win the Time Trial on Wednesday.